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Dude, vidding Torchwood is hard.

Can it really be that I know the canon so much less well than Who? My canon knowledge is usually pretty good, but I've watched all of New Who like, at least six or seven times, and Torchwood... only two or three times all the way through. As well, with Torchwood, I have a lot of informational knowledge (plot, etc) but not a lot of visual knowledge, whereas I can close my eyes and see the scenes unfolding if I think about a New Who episode.

Also vidding Jack and Ianto -- all their good scenes together are... in my head? Seriously, it's a whole barrel of other issues than writing. In vidding, I cannot just move them around like puppets! (Well, I probably could if I were, a) better and b) had better software, but STILL.) And all their scenes have... not a wide range of position? Nor do they really... touch each other casually? And Ianto, at least, seems to have very few scenes alone, so they're not all-purpose/re-purposable, as it were.

I persevere, but damn.

Here, have some top 5s:

For [ profile] such_heights
Top five Doctor moments!

Okay, for this one, I decided to do New Who only.

You know... I loved being you. Back when I first started, at the very beginning, I was always trying to be old and grumpy and important, like you do when you're young. And then I was you... and it was all dashing about and playing cricket and my voice going all squeaky when I shouted... I still do that! The voice thing, I got that from you. Oh! (puts his foot on the console) and the trainers and... (reaches in his pocket and takes out his glasses and puts them on.)... snap. 'Cause you know what, Doctor? You were my Doctor.

(Tips his hat) To days to come.

All my love to long ago.
[Time Crash]

Don't play games with me! You just killed someone I liked, that is not a safe place to stand. I'm the Doctor and you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look me up.

After a short pause, the shadows withdraw.
[Forests of the Dead]

Two hearts. Two hearts, she's like me. If we wait... If we just wait...
He looks at Martha for support.
There's no sign, Doctor. There is no regeneration. She's like you, but... maybe not enough.
No. Too much. That's the truth of it. She was too much like me.
(He gently puts Jenny to the ground and kisses her one last time. Then he gets up, walks to General Cobb and picks up his gun. He stands there, panting from anger and despair, pointing the gun at Cobb's head. Martha and Donna are shocked to see what he's doing. But then he lowers the gun and crouches down to Cobb.) I never would. Have you got that? I never would! (He stands up again and addresses both fighting parties.) When you start this new world. This world of Human and Hath... remember that! Make the foundation of this society. A man who never would! (He throws away the gun and sits back to Jenny's body.)
[The Doctor's Daughter]

Rose... Before I go, I just wanna tell you, you were fantastic.(smiles at her, so proud) Absolutely fantastic. And d'you know what?

Rose shakes her head. The Doctor grins.

So was I.
[Parting of the Ways]

By the ancient rites of combat, I forbid you to scavenge here for the rest of time. And when go you back to the stars and tell others of this planet... when you tell them of its riches - its people - its potential. When you talk of the Earth, then make sure that you tell them this: It - is - defended.
[The Christmas Invasion]

Honorable Mentions: Basically every single moment in the Doctor Who comic "The Forgotten" by Tony Lee. But I figured comic canon didn't count. Then there's One's regen into Two; the Doctor to the Master at the end of S3: "Regenerate!"; the fucked up shit he pulls on the Family of Blood (I love my Approaching Storm!); the "I think you can safely assume I've danced" at the end of The Empty Child moment, or the moment he takes Jack's gun, leaving him with a banana; the moment he says, "I'm the Doctor; Run for your life!" in Rose; Five's reaction to the death of Adric; "Goodbye, Sarah Jane. MySarah Jane" at the end of School Reunion; Seven and Ace, like the entire run; and the power of theatre speech + the 57 academics just punched the air line in The Shakespeare Code; the water pistol in The Fires of Pompeii… I could go on. Oh, and crying after losing Rose on Doomsday. Don't cry, emo timelord!

For [ profile] verasteine
Top five favourite quotes!

This is really hard, and really can change at any time. Also, I was a little uncertain as to what was meant? Quotes for life? One liners? Things I say all the time that I've stolen from other sources? Lines I particularly liked? Anyway. I picked a variety of things off the top of my head that I thought sort of reflected the fannish experience, either being from things that I am currently in the act of fanning, or things that reflect how I like to think of all these stories.

1. "Everything has its time. And everything ends." Doctor Who

2. "Art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with which to shape it." [Bertoldt Brecht]

And in the end and the beginning were always there
Before the beginning and after the end
And all is always now.
[T.S. Eliot]

4. "Go then. There are other worlds than these." [Stephen King, The Gunslinger]

5. "To see that your life is a story while you're in the middle of living it may be a help to living it well. It's unwise, though, to think you know how it's going to go, or how it's going to end. That's to be known only when it's over. And even when it's over, even when it's somebody else's life, somebody who lived a hundred years ago, whose story I've heard told time and again, while I'm hearing it I hope and fear as if I didn't know how it would end; and so I live the story and it lives in me. That's as good a way as I know to outwit death. Stories are what death thinks he puts an end to. He can't understand that they end in him, but they don't end with him. Other people's stories may become part of your own, the foundation of it, the ground it goes on." [Ursula LeGuin, Gifts]

For [ profile] itcamefromjapan
Top five moments at which you fell completely in love - with a character, episode, fandom, etc.

1. Doctor Who. Really from the cold open, but cemented when The Doctor turns to Rose and says, "I'm the Doctor, run for your life!" Really cemented when he says, "Did I mention, it also travels in time." AND THEN NAILED TO THE FABRIC OF SPACE AND TIME in "End of the World" when they watch it explode and then go have chips. Never have I loved a show this much.

2. Firefly. The moment that Mal kicks the guy into the fanblade. IT WAS ALL OVER. Damn, I miss that show. It doesn't have a bad moment as far as I'm concerned.

3. All About Spike: the archive. IT WAS ALL SO ORGANIZED. It had this printable function. I COULD READ FOREVER.

4. Tenth Doctor. Everything from the Sycorax spaceship onwards. THE FENCING. OMG.

5. The shot of Gandalf riding through the Shire at the very beginning of Fellowship of the Ring. IT LOOKED SO PERFECT.

Honorable mentions: Friday Night Lights, the moment when Jason's wheeled off the field in the first ep, and everyone's standing up, praying to their pagan football deities. Veronica Mars & Logan Echolls: that moment in the hotel when they kiss. BEING HUMAN – only everything. The West Wing, when Bartlett comes in at the end of the 1st episode and tells people what's what.

For [ profile] coyotegoth
Top five death scenes

1. Durga's death in Pather Panchali, a Bengali film by Satyajit Ray.

2. Arnie's Terminator in Terminator 2
(won't embed but watch it here.

3. Spock in The Wrath of Khan. I have been, and always will be your friend. *sob*

4. Fred in Angel. DAMN YOU JOSS WHEDON. (Wesley, Joyce, Angel, Tara all get honorable mentions. It'd have been Joyce up front, but we don't really see her die, just the reaction to it.) Can't find a link, sadly.

5. This is a book, but Katherine Patterson's "Bridge to Terabithia" still makes me cry.

I also want to throw out a mention for Boys Don't Cry here; I sobbed my way through that death scene too. But it's… upsetting because of RL, not because of the movie, you know? Also Glory, when everyone's getting massacred. And then there's My Girl which made me cry at the death of Macaulay Culkin, like, wtf? Also, um, Hedwig, in Harry Potter. And every single death in The West Wing. Mercutio in Romeo & Juliet. Man, this is hard. Oh, Alec's death in the last short story in collected in "Swordspoint"... hmm...

For [ profile] jlh
Five things you didn't think you'd like at first/before you watched them but totally loved. TV/movie/books/music/whatever.

1. Harry Potter. Read the first book in a bookstore the year it came out, and went, "eh!" Later, after Book Three, my mom gave me a box set of the 1st three for xmas, and I read 'em in one night, and was hooked. Was at the bookstore at 9am for Book 4, the day it came out, and midnight-lined it for every one after that.

2. Snowcrash. I tried to read this book 11 times before I liked it; then one day in Cleveland, I was looking through a friend's bookshelf – saw it, picked it up, and was hooked. It's one of my favorite things now. Still can't explain what happened there.

3. Electronica/cheesy raver music, like happy hardcore. I used to hate this shit, and being raver adjacent in the halcyon days of the early 'oughts, had to listen to a lot of it. And then I was like, oh… I really like this. It's bouncy and happy and makes me smile. This turned into a ridiculous liking for really ridiculous bubblegum pop. Sad, no?

4. Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Series. I picked up the first, tried it, hated it, tried it again, hated it, tried it a third time: LOVED IT. (I'm sensing a pattern here.) I don’t know why it is that my first impression of a book isn't always reliable, but I'm persistent. It's like a wall that I just have to knock through before I like something, and I usually know that I'm gonna, so I keep trying. It's hard going though, to keep trying to acquire the taste, especially when there are so many things I just, well, love right off the bat. With books, I often try. With TV, if I don't like it right at first, I pretty much won't bother with it.

5. Cheese. Literally. I used to really dislike cheese. Also nuts. Now I love both like whoa.

P.S. How much do I want to teach this course? How much do I want to take this course? SO MUCH.

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Date: 2009-08-12 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Also vidding Jack and Ianto -- all their good scenes together are... in my head?

yep *nods* tho, i sorta managed to rehash some scenes to cobble together a jack/ianto vid (a lot of the clips of each of them were stolen from scenes where they were not together at all)

4. "Go then. There are other worlds than these." [Stephen King, The Gunslinger]

Aah! so one of my fave dark tower moments (also, i want to build a tw fic around that line)

5. This is a book, but Katherine Patterson's "Bridge to Terabithia" still makes me cry.

o god, me too! and the stupid movie versions were all terrible!

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I hated the movie of "Bridge to Terabithia" much less than I was expecting to, actually, but nothing matches that book, omg.

Aah! so one of my fave dark tower moments (also, i want to build a tw fic around that line)

Brilliant! Would you save Ianto?

I want to make an icon of that line, with maybe someone reading a book. Like, uh, Bastian from the Neverending Story, or something.


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Date: 2009-08-13 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]

i actually didn't watch the whole BtT movie, the kids in the first ten minutes pissed me off too much - there was a TV movie or mini-series made... sometime in the early 90s, it was canadian, i think

oMG please make that icon!

what are you vidding? i have about twelve vids going, and they are just taking forever b/c i can't concentrate on any one for very long

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
For [ profile] lefaym, I'm making a Jack/Ianto vid to the hymn "Abide With Me" (they played it at the end of the DW ep, Gridlock.)

And then I'm making a Torchwood team vid to "I Believe" by The Real Tuesday Weld.

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
If only they were. *bangs head into wall*

I'm feeling really blocked right now. Woe!

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
how do you go about planning your vids? do you storyboard? (i don't) still using moviemaker? that is what frustrates me the most b/c it SUCKS!
try watching music videos/films/tv shows/ anything to see neat editing tricks or concepts you might want to try

or just take a step back, walk around, do something else for a bit and let it sort of percolate in your mind, then come back to it

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I listen to the song eight gazillion times. Which is kind of like mental storyboarding? I plan the vid in my head before I do anything. I think that's the problem with this Abide With Me one -- I haven't really found out what I want to do with it. The "I Believe" one is planned out, but I'm just having trouble remembering what's where exactly. And I want to do "Abide.." first because it was a request, you know?

Still using moviemaker. I've got an old version of Sony Vegas which looks good, but can't get it to install yet. Hopefully will in the next couple of days.

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Date: 2009-08-13 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
i was going to dl the trial version of sony vegas - if you get it working, let me know what you think of it?

I listen to the song eight gazillion times. Which is kind of like mental storyboarding? I plan the vid in my head before I do anything.

ah, exactly how i work - if i'm not seeing the exact images in my head while the song plays, or if i don't get the overall sense then i'm not ready to start working on it
perhaps, doing the other first would be better for you? or while working on that, you might get ideas for the 'abide' one, too?

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Date: 2009-08-12 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I love the quotes! I'm a quotes freak, and they can be from any source. I love the ones you've chosen -- the poetry is beautiful, but the final one... Very profound. I just know I'll be thinking on that one for a bit. So thank you.

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I love Ursula LeGuin; she thinks about stories the way I do, and puts it far better than I ever could. I'm a total fangirl of her and all her works. Glad you liked the quotes!

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Date: 2009-08-13 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
That icon is... adorable. Where's it from?

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Date: 2009-08-12 07:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile]
M-F'ing word on Snowcrash. one of my best friends in the world (brilliant, but occasionally questionable taste) shoved the first four pages under my nose, insisting that I must read, because this was "so fucking brilliant writing." i was like, um, this looks like serious fanboy wankery or something. Little did I know (took me 2 years to find out) that it was incredible pop-icon satirization, layered over hackers and fucking Babylonian creation myths. Dude. I have read it probably 15 times since then, love it and Diamond Age (if only for the concept of NeoVictorians, emulated by many of my current friends.)

Sadly, Cryptonomicon, bought with such excitement, went into the Epic Fail pile. I finished it by dogged persistence, and will never read it again, nor its followups.

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Haven't tried Cryptonomicon. And I'm still at the same stage with Diamond Age that I was with Snowcrash... waiting to like it. I know I will, because hello! Neo Victorians, but haven't got there yet.

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Date: 2009-08-12 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The scene from "Smashed" that you were looking for the other day:

I can't find Fred's death from "A Hole In The World" but it breaks my heart every single time. It might be my favourite tv death in terms of it being painful and beautiful and actually serving the character it was killing off. Not to mention being *actually* vital to the rest of the series' plotline.

"There's a hole in the world. It seems like we should have known."

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I think I couldn't find it cos I kept thinking it was "Wrecked" which is actually the next episode. Stupid Kali, no biscuit.

*Sob* Fred's death undid me. And it sucked because I felt that I had just really begun to love her. (I liked her when she was in the cave, but then the love triangle shit really irked.) All of season 5, I was like, OMG this fabulous actress and ONLY NOW do we get to see it. (Joss did the same thing with Amy Acker in Dollhouse, imo. Last episode, and suddenly, WOW, where have you been??? Sigh.)

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
OMG, someone else who has seen and liked Pather Panchali! That was an awesome film, and I am tickled to death that my local library had a copy.

Have you seen the other two in the series??

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Date: 2009-08-13 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
*grin* I certainly have. Random fact: My dad was one of the kids who might have been Apu (in the first movie), but then his family moved from Calcutta to Delhi.

They are incredibly depressing films, but stunning, aren't they?


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