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kali ([personal profile] fictional) wrote2009-01-14 01:27 pm

i keep saying i'll have more cogent things to say about this, but till then...

Check out [livejournal.com profile] deepad's post, I Didn't Dream of Dragons, a thoughtful, lucid, poignant essay on race and reading fantasy.

Excerpt from my comment:

But here is my problem, and that problem is love. Brought up on a steady diet of white fantasy and British boarding school novels, now, even when I can identify the alienation imposed by them -- these are stories by people who think of me as sub-human -- I still love them. They are still the fabric of my childhood, the patterns of my inner landscape. It's like Stockholm Syndrome.

And I still don't know what to do with that? How does one cope with the politics of desire?

Not At All

[identity profile] keith418.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
The icon is taken from an album cover from a band called Der Blutharsch. The art derives, I recall, from an earlier era - WWI or before. Not all the rune people were Nazis and many people invested in the runes now would be offended by the immediate association of runes and the Nazis.

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[identity profile] keith418.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a rune guy, so I don't know.

Re: Not At All

[identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I came home from this play, and check my email, and am all like, wait, runes, nazis, WHUT? What happened to the internets! lol.

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[identity profile] thaddeusfavour.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah! She's back! Run! (Just like cats getting caught on the kitchen counter.)

I was mostly a spectator. I don't...respond well to deep, thoughtful things right off the bat when it's a topic I haven't considered before. I usually go away, think things through, and have intelligent things to say a day or two later. I found the essay interesting, disturbing, enlightening - in other words it was the best of what the internet can provide, which IMO is knowledge and an expanded worldview...and porn. Three. There are three things the internet can provide, knowledge, an expanded worldview, porn...and Monty Python. Four... ::giggles::

I was just checking to see how much knowledge "not a rune guy" had about what he was spouting off. Not much, as it turns out.

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[identity profile] bodlon.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the clarification. I meant no offense to workers in runes, or to people whose heritage includes them.

However, please consider that the Sig rune was used extensively by the Nazis, and continues to be used among white supremacists. Combine it with military imagery, and that's going to raise eyebrows, regardless of your intent.

Context is everything.

Believe Me

[identity profile] keith418.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not offended.

Re: Not At All

[identity profile] bodlon.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
♥ to you as well.

And, uh, mumbledysorry for sidetracking the conversation before making a proper on-topic comment.

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[identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com 2009-01-15 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Please do not apologize. It provided me with an awesome "wait, what?!" which is what the internet is for, right? And all on my humble little journal. *laughs*