He wondered briefly if Jack was capable of loving anything at all that wasn't broken.
I think that's why he loves them, really. John Hart, Gwen, Owen, Tosh, Ianto, the Doctor, himself - all things that are broken. Torchwood too, for that matter - as a concept, anyway, was broken when he took it over, and he loves it as well.
"What happened, when you went off with him?" Gwen asked quietly.
"Which time?"
"The one you don't want me asking about."
"Things I can't tell you about. But I was tortured. For a year. And all I can think is that that's happening to Ianto right now."
You know, it's one thing to watch Jackie fret over Rose going away, not having any idea or concept really of what Rose sees and does when she's traveling. You almost think that Jackie worries about the mundane things most mothers worry about, with traveling children: getting mugged, or losing passports or plane tickets, or having a one-night-stand with the wrong fellow, or at the worst, being arrested and tossed in a third-world jail cell. Sure, Jackie knows it's dangerous - she probably has an idea that maybe, just maybe, Rose could find herself in real, life-threatening danger. But that's the sort of thing people think, and then say, "Won't happen to ME."
But then there's Jack, because he knows it can happen. Every time he's traveled with the Doctor, he ends up dead in the end. And Jack, upon returning to Ianto after being buried under Cardiff for so long...as I recall, he was kind of - absent, wasn't he? I mean, he remembered Ianto, but only as a concept, not so much as a person. And maybe there's been a bit of time since those stories now...but there was a line, wasn't there, in the first part, where Jack was being jokey, and wanting someone at the table with whom he stood a chance of shagging. Funny, yeah, and cavalier, even for Jack. But I wonder if he wasn't beginning to take Ianto for granted, as a person and as a concept.
And I wonder now - and this is me being rambly on New Year's Morning with four hours of sleep from the night at the pub before, so bear with me - I wonder if the Doctor hasn't taken Ianto on this journey, keeping him three days away, because he wants Jack to realize just how much Ianto means to him. Okay, maybe the seed thing is important - although I haven't figured out quite why - but it's the Doctor. He's got a motive here.
Also, Jack's angst seems to surprise even him, in a way. Which makes me think that's the point. The Doctor took Rose for granted. He wouldn't want Jack to go the same way.
End of the day, I'm a Doctor/Rose shipper, hence why I see things in that light, though I do try to be more even-handed on occassion. And I like happy endings, as much as I love angst.
This was clearly He, and He was a great big giant head in a jar and Ianto wondered how it spoke, considering the lack of a body to house lungs or even, presumably, vocal chords to force air through.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Well, that trumps all me and my philosophizing, over here. *grin* You rock.
"Have I known you?" it asked...
Oh, you are evil. You rock, and you're evil. Expand that philosophizing above: the Doctor isn't just doing this for Jack-as-we-know-him, but for Jack-as-he-is-to-become. (Assuming I'm right, of course. Probably not, but I'm having loads of fun anyway.)
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Date: 2009-01-01 03:23 pm (UTC)I think that's why he loves them, really. John Hart, Gwen, Owen, Tosh, Ianto, the Doctor, himself - all things that are broken. Torchwood too, for that matter - as a concept, anyway, was broken when he took it over, and he loves it as well.
"What happened, when you went off with him?" Gwen asked quietly.
"Which time?"
"The one you don't want me asking about."
"Things I can't tell you about. But I was tortured. For a year. And all I can think is that that's happening to Ianto right now."
You know, it's one thing to watch Jackie fret over Rose going away, not having any idea or concept really of what Rose sees and does when she's traveling. You almost think that Jackie worries about the mundane things most mothers worry about, with traveling children: getting mugged, or losing passports or plane tickets, or having a one-night-stand with the wrong fellow, or at the worst, being arrested and tossed in a third-world jail cell. Sure, Jackie knows it's dangerous - she probably has an idea that maybe, just maybe, Rose could find herself in real, life-threatening danger. But that's the sort of thing people think, and then say, "Won't happen to ME."
But then there's Jack, because he knows it can happen. Every time he's traveled with the Doctor, he ends up dead in the end. And Jack, upon returning to Ianto after being buried under Cardiff for so long...as I recall, he was kind of - absent, wasn't he? I mean, he remembered Ianto, but only as a concept, not so much as a person. And maybe there's been a bit of time since those stories now...but there was a line, wasn't there, in the first part, where Jack was being jokey, and wanting someone at the table with whom he stood a chance of shagging. Funny, yeah, and cavalier, even for Jack. But I wonder if he wasn't beginning to take Ianto for granted, as a person and as a concept.
And I wonder now - and this is me being rambly on New Year's Morning with four hours of sleep from the night at the pub before, so bear with me - I wonder if the Doctor hasn't taken Ianto on this journey, keeping him three days away, because he wants Jack to realize just how much Ianto means to him. Okay, maybe the seed thing is important - although I haven't figured out quite why - but it's the Doctor. He's got a motive here.
Also, Jack's angst seems to surprise even him, in a way. Which makes me think that's the point. The Doctor took Rose for granted. He wouldn't want Jack to go the same way.
End of the day, I'm a Doctor/Rose shipper, hence why I see things in that light, though I do try to be more even-handed on occassion. And I like happy endings, as much as I love angst.
This was clearly He, and He was a great big giant head in a jar and Ianto wondered how it spoke, considering the lack of a body to house lungs or even, presumably, vocal chords to force air through.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Well, that trumps all me and my philosophizing, over here. *grin* You rock.
"Have I known you?" it asked...
Oh, you are evil. You rock, and you're evil. Expand that philosophizing above: the Doctor isn't just doing this for Jack-as-we-know-him, but for Jack-as-he-is-to-become. (Assuming I'm right, of course. Probably not, but I'm having loads of fun anyway.)
I really, really need an Ianto icon.