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Would love to see it. Seeing how it's RTD still it's also not generally improbable that he would be touching the Gallifrey storyline. Add Simm as the Master and it would likely make me happy.

But- in a one hour special... I don't know. I find it unlikely, but if we ever see something about Gallifrey or the Time War we would now, so-

Hmm. I'd say he wouldn't call it Planet of the Dead if it was about Gallifrey, I don't think he'd use ... 'the Dead'. Just, a hunch, I suppose.

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such_heights

That? Would be amazing. I want moar Gallifrey SO BAD.

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I know. I want to see the TIME WAR. I want them to get Eight back and watch him regen into Nine. Maybe flashbacks??? And Gallifrey!! They have the effects to do it now, don't they? And, and as

rm was just saying to me, it'd really wrap up the Ten storyline in a fascinating way...

God. It would be so awesome.

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You're probably right in that an hour wouldn't be enough!

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Also if the Christmas special is the beginning of Ten acknowledging his utterly failed/fucked interpersonal relationships, doesn't that _have_ to lead him back to Gallifrey? He had a life there once too.

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I need to stop coming up with fantasy scripts for reals. I just wrote an RPF, wherein I made up a whole multiple!Doctors episode of the future, and now I really want to see it. This is just setting me up for disappointment. lol.

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I think that would be awesome and, indeed, is what I'm hoping it'll be, although I've not ruled out it being Skaro...

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I know! His family! His wife! His children! His brother. It's like Jack's photo box.

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Ooh, Skaro too! More Daleks, definitely a possibility. Is it thrown out of time too, I wonder...

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Okay, so if it's Skaro, how much -- and this would be _very_ RTD -- do I want the last special (the regeneration special) to happen on Gallifrey. Life where there was none and all that. It fits into RTD's weird "I'm obsessed with making this show totally secular and yet stuffed full of creepy biblical references" thing, and would be extra special awesome weird if we have Jack back for it as rumoured.

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Argh see the thing is, I would totally trust RTD to squeeze it into an hour and fuck it up that way. I wonder if he'll be trying to tie up the storylines he brought up and leave Moffat with a cleaner slate, so to speak.Also, I'd always taken Gallifrey as a planet to be destroyed rather than just everything on it being destroyed (but I don't have my Who quotes ready for that, so I could be wrong).

Which would leave going back in time to when it still existed. In which case '..of the Dead' would make less sense. Or well, maybe it would make sense.

Argh, but it would be grand. I'd love to have a Time War special, really, but no idea how they'd do that with the current Doctor incarnation.

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Wherein is the Doctor backstory lurking, because I'm sort of getting a bunny (not even a bunny so much as -- "hey, this sounds like a job for my mournful tone.")

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darthhellokitty.livejournal.com

Ten is IN Jack's photo box.

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Which would leave going back in time to when it still existed. In which case '..of the Dead' would make less sense. Or well, maybe it would make sense.

Or it would be even more morbid. Dead and doomed and nothing for it! Isn't that one of the lessons we keep getting from Who?

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Ten IS the photobox. LOL.

But if you take Gallifrey as sort of Ten's photobox i.e. "The Life Before", which means Gallifrey is sort of in Jack's as well. Especially since Jack thought Time Lords were some kind of myth, didn't he? All the stories that make up the past and their artifacts. CRAZY.

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Wait, did Jack actually think that or did we decide Jack thinks that?

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Yeah I was thinking that when I typed that. I see a possibility for something Gallifrey/Skaro/something BIG! mostly because I tend to think RTD likes to bring things full circle and round them up and go out with his baby as it exists done (and I'd like to see Jack as the bridge between the two phases on New Who then, so to speak). He came up with the whole idea of Gallifrey dooming the Doctor's emotional life from before the beginning of New Who, essentially, it is only right and fitting he would bring the arch to an end, in a way, and give his character as he came up with it, closure, and his audience, to a point.

Orrrr - it could be completely off-base.

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Oh God. Hang on. It's all over the place in bits and jots. We find out about the brother, I think from Ten (speaking to Martha). One (William Hartnell shows up with Susan, his granddaughter, so...)

Actually, I know. Watch this: the Doctor's entire backstory in one easy vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc4HSf6NKiQ
World, family, schooling, the Master. etc.

Ignore the half human thing, it's ridiculous, and was in the terrible tv movie (Eight), and everyone does.

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He says it in "Parting of the Ways" I think. The Doctor says something about the Time War, and Jack says, "I thought that was just a fairy tale" or something to that effect.

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Ah, but that's about the Time War, not Time Lords per se, right? I haven't rewatched Parting of the Ways in ages, because I just can't cope.

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I think that would be made of awesome, in it's way.

Given the huge spatfest that is Gallifrey/Skaro and what-is-canon-vs-what-isn't regarding those two - well, mostly Skaro, I suppose, as the Gally question in TV canon is settled at this point - Planet of the Dead could go in any number of directions, just with those two entities...

I'm only thinking it could involve Skaro because of the first Dalek story "The Dead Planet"

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Isn't that title though why this flip of it could be Gallifrey? Like, we spend all this time on how the Daleks are so awful they're not even like living creatures. So they have "The Dead Planet" but the tragedy of Gallifrey isn't the place is it? It's the people.

Anyway, that's my not very informed about canon, what I would do as a writer thought.

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That said, me con-Gallifrey: I'm not sure RTD shoudl destroy the mystical idea of Gallifrey's destruction by either making it less or more real (eg. showing it as tsill living or showing it as desolate). As a plot point it works greatt in its foggy ways.

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