A not-debate by any other name...

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Oh, Canada. I envy you. When y'all have debates, they actually, you know, appear to be debates. Like (more than two!) people sitting around talking. It sounds nice...

In addition, hello Sen. Biden. Just about the time you zinged Gov. Palin about the Road to Nowhere, I forgave you for the Rave Act. What's more, hofnarr did too, and that's saying something. You were great. Also, see what I did there? What's wrong with Mr. Biden? Mr. McCain? Why must we remove all civility and etiquette from this process? WHY? This isn't a barn raising. It's a presidential election. (Granted, the distinction is becoming less and less clear, and thanks for that, Republicans!) I also notice that despite the plethora of "Baracks" and "Johns" and "Joes" - there remained not one single Sarah. What, she's a woman, so gets to retain the courtesy of her title? WTF?

I thought Biden did an excellent job. Much of the time, it seemed like Sarah Palin wasn't even there. He had bigger fish to fry, and I think he fried them. I thought the notes on gay marriage were powerful, and incidentally I loved that he slipped first and called it marriage, when he first said he was for it, and only later in the answer amended it. That slip actually gave me hope, much like the part where he said they supported nuclear energy. It's sad that Dems. can't win an election talking about nuclear energy, because environmentalists (naive ones) hear nuclear, and go crazy. Anyway, those two moments really gave me hope that underneath all the pacifying rhetoric, the Obama/Biden ticket might... for lack of a better term, be on the side of the angels. Which is nice. Biden's affect in the gay marriage moment was great too. "Marriage is between you and your religious leader. If your pastor/rabbi/priest/mullah/holy kumquat won't marry you, I'm sorry but it's none of my business. But there's a justice of the peace who will. WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN?" And it's so nice to know that Mrs. Palin tolerates me. And some of her best friends are gay. Thanks. That and two dollars'll get me on the subway. Also so disingenously saying that she & McCain won't take away rights that haven't been granted yet. Fuck you. Incidentally, have read several newspaper accounts of the whole thing, and got several different versions: Sen. Biden unequivocally endorsed gay rights; Gov. Palin didn't, vs. neither Sen. Biden nor Gov. Palin support gay marriage and all the varying permutations in between.

I also thought Palin bringing up Biden's wife was one of the tackiest things I've ever seen. Really charming there. But his slam at the end about single fathers - yeah, you don't get to play that card with this guy, Mrs. Palin.

I wish however, that re: healthcare, the Obama/Biden side would stop giving so many numbers. I mean, I like the numbers, but I already know who I'm voting for. Is it so hard to say: in McCain's tax plan, he wants to tax medical benefits. He wants to tax you when you have go to the hospital. I think that would give people pause.

In the end, Palin had five answers memorized, and insisted on giving them over and over, when they had nothing to do with the questions. (Nice zing to Katie Couric by the way, Mrs. Palin. That's it, blame the interviewer for the filter of showing you looking like an uneducated yokel. Nice!) Some news sites are calling this a draw, because she didn't fall on her face. This particular gauge of success is so alarming to me, I don't even know what to say, except that it's humiliating for both my country and gender. On the other hand, you'd think I'd be used to that by now.

Comments

[electro-club.livejournal.com]

I haven't had the time to read the newspaper yet (left really early to college, now I'm at work, and my paper is home waiting for me to arrive), but I did hear on the car that they did a research or something that showed 51% of the americans approved Biden against only 37% approving Pallin. Guess her magic is wearing off. And if there is something that has always sounded really stupid to me is having a candidate gaining strength out of the popularity of his vice-candidate. Were people going to vote for Pallin as president or McCain? Really, really strange thing.

Guess the problem is having only two political parties. Either ur a republican or either ur a democrat, you don't get to stay somewhere in-between or not one of those two at all. Having more options always seems more appealing to me, that covers most people's political visions. And, having more parties, candidates proposals also seem more relevant, I guess. Comes before their parties ideology. To most people, at least. But then again you don't have to vote, you do it if you feel like it. God knows I wish I didn't have to. =/ Candidates get worse by the year, at the point of, out of, I don't know, seven candidates, none being worth of my vote. Most people around here wouldn't vote if they could. I'm sick of giving my time and my vote to the suckers trying to rule my country. Its sofb after sofb, and it never gets any better. Economy, maybe; social major importance problems? No way. But anyway... I still do, try to do the best thing. Not always possible, though. =/

[darthhellokitty.livejournal.com]

McCain would be 72 when he became president, so there's concern that Palin could end up becoming President. Which would be a nightmare for EVERYONE.

[electro-club.livejournal.com]

I know... But the thing is: then why vote for McCain at all? His campaign gained force because people were sort of thinking about voting for her. What if McCain doesn't die? There is a high probability he won't. Anyway... I just think its a weird logic.

[kalichan.livejournal.com]

The whole thing is so bizarre and based on weird marketing.