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It may come as a surprise to those of you who read IHNIIHBT, which is sort of a pornographic epic, but I greatly dislike writing sex.

No, really.

I hate it a lot. Which is funny because lately, we've been doing a lot of it.

Don't get me wrong. I love that our story is so filthy and x-rated. In fact, sometimes I even think it could stand to be filthier. I like reading sex. Oh man, do I. Porn, for me, is a primarily written-word driven thing, and it was that way long before I discovered fandom and its box of erotic delights. Think reading bodice-rippers and skimming my way through Tess of the D'Urbervilles at seven, desperately (and unsuccessfully, fuck you, Thomas Hardy) searching for the dirty bits...! Flipping through the Mists of Avalon for the threesome scene, etc. etc.

But writing it? A resounding "feh!"

For one thing, it's really hard [no pun intended]. Sex is repetitive. We have a finite number of moving parts, we have a finite number of slots for those parts to fit into. We tweak, we stroke, we push, we pull, we slap, we tickle; we get wet, we get hard. It feels great, except when it doesn't. And if you add in too many adverbs and adjectives -- you run the risk of sounding like a romance novel, a bad romance novel.

I don't know about you, but I have sex in my head. If my brain isn't getting off, I can spasm all I want, but I haven't come. It's no good to me without the brainfuck. There's an internal narrative always going on -- which mirrors to varying degrees what's actually happening in the physical, corporeal world. Sometimes, the degree is zero. Things I would never do "for real", things I would find actively offensive or disturbing if I weren't in bed, and believing that the things people imagine or play at in order to find pleasure are all perfectly okay.1

Thing is, when you're writing, the characters can't have internal narratives, unrelated to what's around them, because they're already in a narrative! Hell, they are the narrative. And of what interest to the reader -- who's using your story to furnish their own fantasy about say, Jack and Ianto -- is an internal, unrelated narrative that the character might possibly be having, if they were real? My feeling is, generally speaking, probably not much. Because that's like being OOC on purpose, and no one wants to see that, right?

So there's ways around it. Hence: dirty talk, d/s, drag, s & m, 3somes -- all games that are all about the stories you tell yourself. Narratives embraced and imposed.

But. I have to wonder, what are the fantasies of fantasies? What are the stories that stories whisper to themselves in the dark, or the ones they hold tightly to themselves, too ashamed even to say out loud?

Because that? That might be hot.


1That's what I tell myself anyway. Rationalizations: more important than sex. Think about it. Ever made it through a day without a rationalization? Yeah..

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Date: 2009-01-21 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
Jenny is inherently funny, that's one of the appealing things about her. How could she not make having sex funny? She's Jenny! :D

I feel like the working-with-aliens thing could work against the uninhibited-sex thing, though, because as a Tippy Top Secret Agent you feel like you have to be as cool as they are on TV, and in addition he's got his James Bond fetish going on. Obviously he hasn't got any problems being kinky with Jack, but I suspect a lot of that is due to Jack's bred-in belief that sex is never ever uncool. (Plus, Jack thinks kinky sex is fun and almost everyone ever has thought Jack is cool, so there must be something to it, eh?)

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Date: 2009-01-21 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Hahahaaha. Oh man, someone needs to do Ianto's internal "I am a cool, sexy secret agent" monologue right as it gets tripped up by something deeply, deeply stupid and unsexy that Jack will cackle about.

Poor kid.

Meanwhile, so so so so hard not to reveal Jenny hilarity to you.

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Date: 2009-01-21 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
I await it with bated breath!

I'd write the Ianto Gets Tripped Up story but I have an embarrassment squick that is IRONCLAD. There's a reason I like him so much...

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Date: 2009-01-21 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
I'd write the Ianto Gets Tripped Up story but I have an embarrassment squick that is IRONCLAD. There's a reason I like him so much...

This is tragic, because you would do this better than almost anyone ever. But I feel you on the embarrassment thing. I used to have to run away from sit coms because I was so embarrassed for the people on screen. It's bad.

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Date: 2009-01-21 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
If I could figure out a way to write it where it didn't seem like either a scene from...well, Stargate Atlantis, let's be frank, or an OOC comic sketch, I totally would. And I'm working at it, but the problem with having someone with a running "I am a cool sekrit agent" monologue in their head is that there's no way to trip him up without mortifying him.

Although I suppose you could pull some kind of Sam Vimes on him....in Jingo, when he's confronting his enemies, Vimes picks up an ember from a fire, lights his cigar with it, and says something about "It's not about avoiding pain, just about ignoring it"...and then as soon as they're gone he drops the ember and starts swearing really loudly about how much that bloody hurt.

*percolates also*

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Date: 2009-01-23 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fmanalyst.livejournal.com
Me too! Especially those '70s era sitcoms that thrived on that sort of thing. I couldn't even watch that deleted scene from Meat because I felt for Ianto's embarrassment.

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