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It may come as a surprise to those of you who read IHNIIHBT, which is sort of a pornographic epic, but I greatly dislike writing sex.

No, really.

I hate it a lot. Which is funny because lately, we've been doing a lot of it.

Don't get me wrong. I love that our story is so filthy and x-rated. In fact, sometimes I even think it could stand to be filthier. I like reading sex. Oh man, do I. Porn, for me, is a primarily written-word driven thing, and it was that way long before I discovered fandom and its box of erotic delights. Think reading bodice-rippers and skimming my way through Tess of the D'Urbervilles at seven, desperately (and unsuccessfully, fuck you, Thomas Hardy) searching for the dirty bits...! Flipping through the Mists of Avalon for the threesome scene, etc. etc.

But writing it? A resounding "feh!"

For one thing, it's really hard [no pun intended]. Sex is repetitive. We have a finite number of moving parts, we have a finite number of slots for those parts to fit into. We tweak, we stroke, we push, we pull, we slap, we tickle; we get wet, we get hard. It feels great, except when it doesn't. And if you add in too many adverbs and adjectives -- you run the risk of sounding like a romance novel, a bad romance novel.

I don't know about you, but I have sex in my head. If my brain isn't getting off, I can spasm all I want, but I haven't come. It's no good to me without the brainfuck. There's an internal narrative always going on -- which mirrors to varying degrees what's actually happening in the physical, corporeal world. Sometimes, the degree is zero. Things I would never do "for real", things I would find actively offensive or disturbing if I weren't in bed, and believing that the things people imagine or play at in order to find pleasure are all perfectly okay.1

Thing is, when you're writing, the characters can't have internal narratives, unrelated to what's around them, because they're already in a narrative! Hell, they are the narrative. And of what interest to the reader -- who's using your story to furnish their own fantasy about say, Jack and Ianto -- is an internal, unrelated narrative that the character might possibly be having, if they were real? My feeling is, generally speaking, probably not much. Because that's like being OOC on purpose, and no one wants to see that, right?

So there's ways around it. Hence: dirty talk, d/s, drag, s & m, 3somes -- all games that are all about the stories you tell yourself. Narratives embraced and imposed.

But. I have to wonder, what are the fantasies of fantasies? What are the stories that stories whisper to themselves in the dark, or the ones they hold tightly to themselves, too ashamed even to say out loud?

Because that? That might be hot.


1That's what I tell myself anyway. Rationalizations: more important than sex. Think about it. Ever made it through a day without a rationalization? Yeah..

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Date: 2009-01-21 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
Jack: DO NOT DISRESPECT THE HA -- ...is that a sonic screwdriver?
Ianto: No. It just looks like one.
Jack: How much research did you do on this? I would have thought it would disturb you.
Ianto: I'm sorry, who's the one who has a fetish for immortals with god complexes? Oh yes, that would be me.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Hahahahah genius.

And I can't help but think the object in question is the thing that people on my friendslist keep linking to on Blowfish's site (hilarious in and of itself, that that's the name of the sex toy retailer of choice amongst most people I know) saying "hey, doesn't this look like a sonic screwdriver!"

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
The one that looks NOTHING LIKE a sonic screwdriver? :D

Dude, they sell toy sonic screwdrivers. I own one. I can personally vouch for the fact that it would just not be that hard to open one up and install a vibrator in it, if they're that hot for Doctor Who sex toys.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Yes, the one that's like "wow, you're so stretching for that comparison." Ha!

And yeah. Also true.

At Terminus, the HP con, we spent about half the time wandering Chicago looking for the right fucking watch batteries for Jill's sonicscrewdriver, and after she held it up while asking for batters in like the third RadioShack, I noted that folks probably thought she was waving around a Japanese vibrator.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
AHAHAHAHA for the win!

I'm still tempted to build myself a sonic-screwdriver casing for the jumpdrive that I use to carry all my current work around with me. On the other hand it's already silver and lights up blue when I plug it in, so I can't get too greedy.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
They, um, sort of vibrate a little just by themselves too.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!

did you?

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
I WOULD NEVER. I AM SHOCKED AT THE VERY IDEA. CAN YOU SERIOUSLY IMAGINE ME DOING SUCH A THING?

Wait, don't answer that.

;-)

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Yeah, and I've never had cosplay sex. ;)

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
[redacted for spoilers] :-P

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
This is true. But they also squeal, which is awesome and fun if you're the Doctor but I could imagine would get a little tiresome in the throes of fannish passion. Unless veracity to canon really literally gets you off.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Unless veracity to canon really literally gets you off.

Love your texts, don't love your texts.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
Let me tell you about the HP fic I once read where Lupin is so poor in canon because he spends all his money on first-editions, which he then ruins because, you know, he's a bibliophile.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Er, what?

...

No. Still got nothing.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
This is why I don't read Harry Potter fanfic anymore.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-22 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loveslashangst.livejournal.com
*falls over laughing*

Can I come play in your brain for a while?

*goes away, giggling about bibliophiles*

Poor Lupin

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-22 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
Better that than <a href="http://www.coolhunting.com/archives/2007/10/big_teaze_toys.php>this</a>, which looks an awful lot like a Toclafane!

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Jack: So... does it vibrate?
Ianto: You're about to find out.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-01-21 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbadge.livejournal.com
And then Jack makes some terrible remark about himself being bigger on the inside, and Ianto laughs too hard to continue...

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