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I LOVED IT. Even the evil, and soon thereafter dead S. Asian guy didn't bug me. (Score: S. Asians [i.e. Suzie, Suzie's dad, P.R. girl in "Planet of the Ood", Torchwood Scientist in "Army of Ghosts"] - 0; Whoniverse - ELEVENTY BILLION.) Well, okay, it bugged me. But not enough to tarnish the spectacularness of Gwen! Being sensible! And cool! AND GOOD AT HER JOB. And the little Torchwood-let on the way. AWWWW. And Jack! And Ianto! TRIPLE AWW! And Rhys! Quadruple awwww! And TEAM. And creepy children. Evil government! CONTINUITY! The point about aliens and the lack of faith thing. It is so nice to see a reaction to the events of before. Owen/Tosh picture-touching! There aren't enough exclamation points in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I loved Ianto's coming out scene. So beautifully done, for serious. I love the magical land that Rusty is so fond of -- yeah, it's an estate, yeah it's not posh, yeah they jack your car. But! non-upper classness/poverty != homophobic, racist fuckery. (c.f. Rose + Mickey).

(Except, Ianto, have we learned nothing from cannibals? SERIOUSLY. And when, evil, soon-to-be dead S. Asian guy says, "hey are you torchwood?" and Jack & Ianto are all like, "Never heard of 'em." BUT IT'S WRITTEN ON THE VAN, GUYS. Still, these are but the sand in a pearl making oyster.)

It was brilliant, and I cried at the Hub exploding. And I didn't hate Jack's daughter; it wasn't melodramatic at all, but just natural and right. Much like the whole Gwen's baby thing felt to me.

Now, in the next few, I'd like to see Ianto earn his keep a little more, but other than that, OMG, Rusty, thank you. Torchwood has really missed you. And I've really missed Torchwood.

Bliss!


[livejournal.com profile] rm, if you're reading this, I think I've maybe figured out a way to make Enough to Go By continue to work, even with new canon. If not, we can always stick with the AU.

ETA: And as I said in a comment below, how much do I love Jack being all con-man and trying to kidnap his own grandson, and then Ianto, the Little Jack That Could doing the same thing with his niece! SO MUCH.

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qaffangyrl.livejournal.com
OH! ITA with everything you've said. I even have written a grad school paper about how non-white characters in the Whoniverse are massively disproporionately evil and/or dead. GRRRR

Oh and I love the fic you and rm write if anyway possible try to work it into canon or at least not directly contradict it b/c what I love most about your work is how unbelievable plausible and utterly realistic it is.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
I even have written a grad school paper about how non-white characters in the Whoniverse are massively disproporionately evil and/or dead. GRRRR

yeah, it is pretty insane. And with the asian characters, I think it might actually be zero that aren't either evil or dead or both.

Will try to do the canon thing with EtGB. I wish we'd been able to finish it prior to S3, but alas. Stupid cancer.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qaffangyrl.livejournal.com
Oh Geez. I didn't know. I try not to read the real life entries of people I don't know well. It feels invasive. Are you doing better? My thoughts are with you.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Oh, sorry! And thank you! It's not me, it's my dad. He got diagnosed right as we were finishing the first chapter of that fic, so as you can imagine it sort of fell by the wayside. But we're hanging in, and I'm slowly making my way back to fandom now ;-)

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qaffangyrl.livejournal.com
Well still. I'm putting postive thoughts out into the universe for your family. And I'll patiently await your brilliant fics.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
*g* Thanks! I appreciate it. I hope the fic will be worth the wait.

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
how are you seeing this before the air date? unfair to new fen! unfair!

*toddles off to watch more S2 online...*

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Torrents are a beautiful thing. I mean, no, what are you talking about? I haven't seen it yet. I'm waiting anxiously for BBC America to air it. *waves hands* This isn't the piracy you are looking for. Move along.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
LOL
i tried to torrent once, but i was thwarted. apparently I have firewalls cleverly hidden in my mac.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
damn you, Steve Jobs! How dare you get in the way of [livejournal.com profile] miep and her super sekrit alien fighting team?!

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
also, when are you arriving for writercon? are you going to need anything while you're here?

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Friday morning, I think. I haven't got my ticket yet. Will you be there? Awesome! I forgot you live there.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
not at the con (sad miep is sad. broke miep is broke), but I do live here, and I have a car. and sekrit restaurant knowledge.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Awww. I'm sorry you are sad. And broke. But yay car & restaurant knowledge. (How did you know I was going btw?)

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
I have sekrit connections. with people you know. who don't drive. and who wear braces sometimes.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
You know, at first I was all... teeth braces? Huh? But then I got it.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
because I am so subtle and enigmatic.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demotu.livejournal.com
And I didn't hate Jack's daughter; it wasn't melodramatic at all, but just natural and right. Much like the whole Gwen's baby thing felt to me.

Yes. This. The spoilers didn't do it justice, and thinking too much with your fic-brain can spoil it, because all of that's actually done really well.

How much do I love that the next ep is TOMORROW? There goes this week...

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Yeah! I loved that he was there all con-person to take his grandkid! It was so Jack! And then Ianto all mini-me doing the same thing.

How much do I love that the next ep is TOMORROW? There goes this week...

On the one hand, yes. On the other: HOW WILL I WAIT 24 HOURS? (I didn't watch S1 & 2 as they aired, but all at once, in like a week.)

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demotu.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, I forgot rm dragged you in late! I saw series 1 all at once, but series 2 dragged out, so this is a treat. Plus, it's sort of a nice balance between the not having to wait too long AND being able to share the squee.

Mini-me Ianto! Con man Jack! It's just so perfect.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, I forgot rm dragged you in late!

More that the boy and I wanted to watch S1 & 2 of Doctor Who (new) first so, it took awhile to get down to it. lol.

BUT IT WAS SO WORTH IT OMFG. And I love getting to share the squee now. eeeeeep. *goes to watch it again*

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Date: 2009-07-08 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Because it's never really my fault. ;)

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kel-reiley.livejournal.com
"hey are you torchwood?" and Jack & Ianto are all like, "Never heard of 'em." BUT IT'S WRITTEN ON THE VAN, GUYS. Still, these are but the sand in a pearl making oyster

heh, i thought that part was funny

-you're torchwood! it says so right there!
- you're crazy, bye!

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
*this is not the torchwood van you're looking for* (How many times can I use this one joke?)

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kel-reiley.livejournal.com
as many time as you want
"this is not the joke i used before..."

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Date: 2009-07-07 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Dude, let me know about EtgB, but realize this may be changing in our heads on a day to day basis. Either way -- we keep writing more!

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Date: 2009-07-07 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
YES.

Eeeeeee! I love new canon! I love it!

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Date: 2009-07-07 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
And I love our fix!

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Date: 2009-07-07 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
it is because we are brilliant!

(we need a new tw themed authors icon)

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Date: 2009-07-07 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Well, you've got yur regenerated Jenny costume....

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Date: 2009-07-07 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
Yes I do!

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodlon.livejournal.com
(Except, Ianto, have we learned nothing from cannibals? SERIOUSLY. And when, evil, soon-to-be dead S. Asian guy says, "hey are you torchwood?" and Jack & Ianto are all like, "Never heard of 'em." BUT IT'S WRITTEN ON THE VAN, GUYS. Still, these are but the sand in a pearl making oyster.)

I am dead certain that their whole "never heard of it" when they're getting into the ZOMGTORCHWOOD Range Rover is intentional. It's fucking-with-someone of the highest order, trying to draw him in, etc.

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Date: 2009-07-07 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
On the other hand, how a bunch of kids could make off with the Super Sekrit SUV -- another question entirely.

Meanwhile, hi! I'm going to Writercon. Is this not awesome?

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Date: 2009-07-07 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodlon.livejournal.com
Indeed! I'm excited like whoa!

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Date: 2009-07-07 03:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] exbentley
jkdshgfjkhsad oh my god so can I share? I have been trying to write Dr Patanjali as an OC into my Torchwood fic (a name plucked from Torchwood Archives) with interest in writing a well-rounded S. Asian character. I've been doing a lot of research since Asia is my homeboy this semester. So I feel... Jossed, to say the least.

Have you heard the Golden Age radio play yet? All ~Eternal British Empire~ in the middle of India, it's a bit bollocks.

Oh, and regarding your next post, I'm glad I wasn't the only person frantic for the pterodactyl the moment I realized they'd put a bomb in Jack.

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Date: 2009-07-07 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
I haven't heard the India radio play; frankly I'm a bit afraid.

And Dr. Patanjali was HOT. *sniff*

Seriously, it really bugs me, the whole S. Asian thing. I mean. they are the most prevalent minority in Britain, no? Like, wtf.

I did however love Ianto's whole, actually Mandarin most dominant language thing, though I found it hard to believe that Jack would think otherwise.

And yes, Myfanwy! I need a shot of her flying over the bay NOW pls, kthnx.

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Date: 2009-07-07 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elainasaunt.livejournal.com
I haven't heard the India radio play; frankly I'm a bit afraid.

Yeah. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

I think Jack and Ianto were talking about two different things: the latter simply about numbers, the former about what dominates the international, erm, conversation, as it were. (Geez, have I worked for UNESCO too long or what?)

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Date: 2009-07-07 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
I think Jack and Ianto were talking about two different things

I know what you mean, but I think it's kind of a symptom of how they are sometimes confused with how they write Jack? Like, is he the time traveler who knows how things shake out and is above our petty politics, and like the Doctor has a much larger view? Or is he his persona of soldier boy and American to boot?

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